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This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it (Road Glidin' Don) BjayKana: ~~~Seems my point went right over your head. Let me try once more. Maybe an argumentum absurdium (sp) method will get through. Suppose it's true you've continually ridden Hondas a 'mighty long time' like you say and suppose it's also true that you never owned any of those Hondas longer than 2 days. Then it wouldn't matter if you'd ridden Hondas for 500 years steady - you'd *still* be in no position to offer sound advice regarding how your idling practice affects the engine's life. So the important question is not how long you've ridden Hondas. The important question is what is the maximum number of miles you have personally put on a single Honda (ideally from brand new to start with a blank slate), doing what you do? Second, it doesn't matter whether it's a Honda or a Harley when it comes to this question. Your inordinate focus on that question makes your knowledge on this subject appear suspect. ~roadglidin'Don~ This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it Donald,you think your point of view is supreme over mine, it seems. Also, you seem to surmise that I havent ridden as many miles on motorcycles as you? I don't know if I have or not, and you don't either. We just simply don't know. ~~Don I am not gonna =try to do= the kiddo thing, by saying ‘‘I have ridden more than you, I am a better motorcyclist than you and on and on. ’’ (you know how Kids use to do on the playground) I honestly dont care. But, I let these Honda Motorcycles warm up by idling,a few minutes, after proper ''choking'' procedure. Just like the Honda manual suggests. I have got a friend, that was told not to choke his 1100 Shadow. he was infomed by someone probably the caliber of you, that =choking= will foul out the plugs. So he would ''grind'' that poor ole' 1100, not using the choke and sure enough, he changed the plugs a coupla' times on that 1100, in two years. -I have recently owned 4 Hondas, and rode em a fair amount of miles around here. I ''choke'' mine, let 'em warm up good by idling, especially in the winter, and have never yet relpaced any of them darn ''plugs''. So, Don,what this all means, is my point of view, and yours are quite different, I guess ????? hell, I don't know, I don't =even= understand yours???????? I must be a lucky sonOfABitch, cause I don't have much trouble with motor'sikels, never have, just lucky, I reckon? (footnote) I just thought, you are right I have never rode =one= Bike, over 30,000. so that might be the =true= difference in our two views.When they get 40 to 50,000 on em', I usually get rid of em. I like changing bikes, I like buying good deals on used ones.) ~~~'cheers, and over?

Atticuss Friendly Fiinch'ette ~mumbles something to the effect of; ‘‘Warming up the engine faster by driving it reduces both these problems. =I'm finished giving you idiots your first lesson.=   Atticus Finch Man. This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it Thank God. I was worried about some newbie Honda fella, listening to your ignorance. (chuckle'ing as I Post this)

This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it ‘‘yaw'll,I'm sure someone with the facilities probably took half a dozen brand new engines and warmed them up by idling and a half dozen identical engines and warmed them up by putting them under load to warm them up faster with the whole process repeated thousands of times to simulate several years of cycling and then tore down the engines and inspected the critical parts for wear to see exactly which warm up method is the best. A simple scientific study would settle the issue once and for all. So where is it?    davidSteuber~ This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it You must not be reading all the reponses on here, up the line. why? Davie, let me tell you, 'Cause Road Glidin'Don, has done that very thang in his garage to those bikes, that he's ridden 200,000+ miles. He is the perfect person to do these types of test, because he keeps a bike for many, mnay years, till they need to be 'opend up'' to observe all that damage from idling.  (chuckle'ing as I post this)

~OK, so humor me. Consider me an ignorant child who can't find his way, oh master of all knowledge. Since you are so wise, explain to me _why_ it's actuaIly a BAD thing to warm up by idling. You _are_ capable of explaining it, aren't you? Brian says: ''I warm my bike up at 'fast idle'. If I try to ride off before it hits 36 degrees it stalls.......36+ it's fine. The whole 'warm up at idle' thing used to be a problem in the old days (60's, early 70's) when oil pumps wouldn't get enough pressure at idle to circulate the usually thick (50 weight) oil properly when it was cold. This 'could' lead to premature wear of the engine. These days with a modern bike with multi-grade oil....no worries!'' ================================== This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it ''Brian, that is just about what every rider does. It seems to be standard practice and standard procedure, and mainly, common sense.However,I cannot imagine some one letting the bike idle for 20 minutes. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? 'Ya'll take care''

That's it. Nothing else. Gotta love fuel injection and modern engines. Sure do.  Here's the procedure in the Owner's Manual for my '98 fuel-injected Road Glide: 1.  Turn ignition ON.  Do not pump the throttle. 2.  Press the starter button to start the motorcycle. 3.  When the engine has started, you can operate your motorcycles as you normally would. Now, from both the Honda and the Harley manuals, it's beginning to appear quite clear that warming up for several minutes is simply bull.

(footnote) I just thought, you are right I have never rode =one= Bike, over 30,000. so that might be the =true= difference in our two views.When they get 40 to 50,000 on em', I usually get rid of em. I like changing bikes, I like buying good deals on used ones.) ~~~'cheers, and over? Exactly what I was getting at.  If you don't put a whole lot of miles on a single bike, you don't really have a basis of experience to judge how your practice is paying off in the long-run. At least one thing is pretty darn sure with my bike:  The no-warm-up practice hasn't hurt it.  Even if we granted that your practice was neutral (doing no harm or good), it's still a totally unnecessary waste of time. Now, would you care to provide a quote from the Owner's Manual of one of your current Hondas where it states you should let the bike warm up for a few minutes before riding?  I provided the quotes from the manuals of my 2 bikes.